. that is incredible, larry. no larry elder. all right. he may not be plugged in i'll ask the same question of kevin williamson sitting right next to me. a third. actually i believe the number is 38% know somebody either in the direct family or like a near cousin that's been out of work. it's incredible. >> i think if you're casting the net that wide for 'cause inches and uncles i'm surprised the number is not more like 80%. there are a lot of people out of work out there. you're seeing obama's poll numbers come down. i think that's because he's a politician who needs a foil. perhaps the country he looked pretty good compared with mitt romney. but the country doesn't look good compared to where the country should be. when he doesn't have someone to run against, when he doesn't have someone to be the villain and he's just getting judged on his actual performance in the job you'll see his numbers come down. he's doing a terrible terrible job and people know that. >> jimmy williams, i understand the ebb and flow of politics on issues like gun control and immigration and same-sex marriage and all these

. >> but even though -- i mean, i follow the work of the joint economic committee. my friend kevin brady and you and i have talked before. even though this is the worst recovery since 1947 in terms of the economic growth gdp and in terms of jobs, it is, it is, nick mulvaney, one of the very best, maybe the best recoveries in profits. and i think that's underrated. nobody can manufacture profits except the ingenuity of american private businesses. and that seems to be carrying us, however mediocre the growth figures are. >> agreed. and i'm not going to sit here and badmouth the american system because i'm as big a fan of it as you are. what i'm worried about with this continued anemic job growth, the administration itself says, i think everybody on the show would agree, we'd like to see that number not 156 but 250,000 jobs a quarter. that's what we need to get back on the trajectory to where we were before the recession. without that i worry about how sustainable those profit growths are. yes, we can all squeeze money out of the operation over the short term. we can get additional productivity ga

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